A Voice of the Christian Underground

Do you have a loved one who is a CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK customer?  I used to be a customers of James Lloyd and listened to the Apocalypse Chronicles too... until the incident. Be warned.

 

 last updated 6-08-08

 

"And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:   For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say"...

 

Luke 12:11-12

 

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The purpose of this website is fivefold:

1) Ezekiel   33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.  33:9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

2) To witness to CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK of their unscriptural behavior in the hopes that they might turn from their iniquity, repent and restore all those whom they have injured,

3) To educate others through documentation* as to the true nature of CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK and their affiliates under the banner of the JAMES LLOYD GROUP,

4) To witness to those who aid and support the JAMES LLOYD GROUP as to what their assistance enables this business to do, the fate of some that did, and...

5) To relay personal insights about the times and the seasons.

This website will continue to bear witness  to the unscriptural behavior of James Lloyd doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK and Susan Lenox et al, until proper repentance and restoration has occurred.  Consider Jesus' words to the Pharisees of his day:

John 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. 5:41 I receive not honour from men. 5:42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. 5:44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? 5:45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

 

→*This site documents just a fraction of the thousands of pages, as well as hundreds of hours of  malicious slander and legal persecution begun by JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK AND SUSAN LENOX (of SOUND BODY) against a lone, Christian Defendant (and single mother). 

As a consequence of the litigation which they initiated, James Lloyd and Susan Lenox were unable to maintain within a court of law the ruse that they operated a "ministry," because they were legally forced to file under the type of corporation that  they truly are—not a ministry but a business—a mail order company operating out of Jacksonville, Oregon.  The litigation also provided many other interesting facts that heretofore had been disingenuously portrayed as truth.  The entire rift between myself and the Plaintiffs (those who initiate a lawsuit), began when they maliciously accused me of "adultery" without a shred of proof. Furthermore the disingenuous claim  was never proven within a court of law, yet due to the Oregon statute of limitations the undocumented malicious slander remains on the internet to this very day. 

Whom do you enable?

 

The body of the bea$t?

or

the Body of Christ?

 

Righteousness according to His WORD is in right action; those who help the poor and the fatherless, those who ease the suffering of His Church will fare a whole lot better in the day of Judgment than those who merely empowered a CORPORATION to persecute His true Church under the pretence of His name.

 

 

For an eye witness's account of what began the mudslinging in the first place →click here

 

 

mudslinging:-noun, an attempt to discredit one's competitor, opponent, etc., by malicious or scandalous attacks.Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006.

Mudslinging is a political device which is regularly used by CHRISTIAN MEDIA RESEARCH—a subsidiary of CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK to discredit many, many individuals through malicious or scandalous attacks.  The attacks are often punctuated with Scripture to give the works an air of Christian legitimacy, which is highly effective among the gullible who seek out authority figures rather than documentation for their beliefs.

It has been documented within Jackson County Circuit Court, Oregon (case numbers 04-2174-L4 and 05-0971-L7) that James Lloyd dba CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK, was found guilty of defamation with malice by a jury of his choosing.

malice:-noun, 1. active ill will: desire to harm another or to do mischief; spite.  2. Law evil intent; state of mind shown by intention to do, or intentional doing of, something unlawful malice implies a deep-seated animosity that delights in causing others to suffer or in seeing them suffer.Webster's New World Dictionary (Second College Edition) World Publishing Company (©1970)

Neither mudslinging nor malice is a Christian device, yet it is regularly utilized by this mail order firm, located in Jacksonville, Oregon for authority and profit.  Consider the following admonition: 

Luke 6:41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 6:42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye. 6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 6:44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Please consider that the Pharisees recorded in the New Testament also used mudslinging to discredit their perceived competition.

Luke 7:31 And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like? 7:32 They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept. 7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil. 7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners! 7:35 But wisdom is justified of all her children.

 

Accusation≠Proof   Vicious claims of adultery, but where is the proof ? Are the  malicious, slanderous and  undocumented writings of a con man and self-proclaimed religious figure and his groupies truly proof, or just part of an elaborate agenda?→click here for details 

 

 

The Almighty's saints are called to suffer persecution at the hand of the Adversary; whose side are you on?

Persecutor or persecutee?

 

 

The gruesome end of just one of CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK'S bu$iness associates Roger Paul Johansen—the troubled "printer that God gave us" whose business was "almost like a ministry" to James Lloyd—not surprisingly—dies a horrible drug related death! click→here for details

 

 

What one of CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK's flock is doing to his wife and children click→here for details

 

 

newestChristian Media Business Associate troubles—merely a long string of coincidences or God’s judgment? click→here for details

 

 

 

James Lloyd threatens a voice again and states that in any response to a lawsuit filed against him by Craig Portwood: "Linda Kristich will again be the centerpiece..."→click here for details

 

 

 

For another witness against the unscriptural works of CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK clickhere for details 

 

 

To Robert Houghton regarding CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK and the Patriot Community click→here for details

 

 

Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States and not even the so-called "Patriots" can stand in her way→click here for details

 

 

CHRISTIAN TRIBULATION IN AMERICA: defending the King James Bible in open court against James Lloyd doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK and Susan Lenox clickhere for details

Shocked by what you hear?

To view the actual CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK court documents attacking the King James Bible  clickhere for details

 

 

 

 

JAMES LLOYD interferes in former customer's marriage click here for the actual audio

 

Sold on "alternative health care" products by self-taught "experts"? Be careful!

 

 

 

 Click here for another witness to the wicked behavior of JAMES LLOYD AND SUSAN LENOX doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK

 

 

 

For yet other voices that have figured out the malicious nature and hypocrisy of James Lloyd dba CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK ahead of the curve click here

 

 

 

 

  THE LAWSUIT that JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK AND SUSAN LENOX BEGAN→ an overview

 

 

 

IF you belong to any  CORPORATE/bu$iness body in ANY way shape or form, then you are responsible for all of that CORPORATE/bu$iness body's iniquity for without your support it could not survive.

 

 

 

 

 

The following chronicles how just one CORPORATION spent their profits and donations while masquerading as a Christian ministry:

 

 

 

I. Prelude to the Lawsuit

(All underlined words are links within the lawsuit section click on a section for details)

 

 

 

A. The Poster affixed hundreds of times by the road to a former customer's house, by CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK's representatives Ralph and Kathy Haaff after the said customer stopped donating to CMN

 

 

 

B. Former Customer sends ORS 1 to JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK asking him to stop attacking her

 

 

 

C. Former Customer sends ORS 2 to JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK asking him to stop attacking her

 

 

 

D. JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK responds to former CMN customer's ORS Letter

 

 

 

E. Former Customer sends ORS 3 to JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK asking him to stop attacking her

 

 

 

II. The Lawsuit filled against a former customer of CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK

 

 

 

A.  JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK AND SUSAN LENOX file a Lawsuit Complaint against a Christian Defendant and former CMN customer-the actual document

 

 

 

 

III. Christian Defendant Struggles to Respond

 

 

 

A. JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK AND SUSAN LENOX show their true colors and Attack the  Bible in open court

 

 

 

B. Christian Defendant's 6-20-05 Letter to JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK AND SUSAN LENOX

 

 

 

C. Christian Defendant's Motion Response which defends the King James Bible against JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK AND SUSAN LENOX

 

 

 

V. Witness

 

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"I will never submit to taking your license. I am controlled by the Holy Spirit, and authorized by God Almighty, and I will not allow you to control me by a license, no matter what you may do to me."the words of an anonymous preacher who was publicly flogged for not submitting to an earthly "authority," March 1775

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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James Lloyd doing business as Christian Media Network

It doesn't matter where you live or how you live; if you don't want to live on the street ("freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose")→then you must feed the meter and support the growing domination of the world by those who believe they know what's best for you.  Your dollar votes. Each and every day you decide what you want more of, with each and every dollar you spend.  How much do you spend on Freedom? How much do you spend on the Truth?

Born Again?

Shake off all worldly spiritual "authority figures," study and venerate the WORD-the Authorized 1611 King James Version Bible and

live free in the Holy Spirit

of God for

it is the only true path to Heaven.

Luke 6:39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch?

This site is also a home church which espouses the virtues of the study and pure unadulterated veneration of the Almighty, His Spirits and His Son—the WORD, through the vehicle of the Authorized 1611 King James Bible by one's self.  For without a genuine love for the WORD—the Truth, one can easily be swept into the land of apostasy... 

Real Protestants don't observe the Roman Catholic inventions called holidays*, instead they observe the  the Feast Days according to the WORD—the KJV Bible.  The Messiah never observed Roman holidays nor did he ever advise his disciples to do so; He kept the Feast Days in accordance with His father's wishes.  [*Easter, Halloween/All Saints day, Christmas, New Years Eve/Day, Valentines Day, St. Patrick's Day etc...]

Who is your father?  The pope or the God of the Bible...Consider the following;

Exodus12:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying, 12:2 This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you. 12:3 Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house: 12:4 And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb. 12:5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats: 12:6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening. 12:7 And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it. 12:8 And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it. 12:9 Eat not of it raw, nor sodden at all with water, but roast with fire; his head with his legs, and with the purtenance thereof. 12:10 And ye shall let nothing of it remain until the morning; and that which remaineth of it until the morning ye shall burn with fire. 12:11 And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD'S passover. 12:12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD.   12:13 And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.  12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

God is not in America's churches nor is he in CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK, because the love of money has pushed HIM out; these "churches" have all become a part of the body of The Church of the Bottom Line, as  Americans  have conceived, voted for, built and empowered this pagan/CORPORATE/bea$t "church" with each and every donation.

Jeremiah 5:30 ¶ A wonderful and horrible thing is committed in the land;  5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?

  Whether your "church" is in BU$INESS as a 501-c3 as nearly all American churches are, or it  merely has a bu$iness license under the authority of the Department of CORPORATIONS as does JAMES LLOYD doing business as CHRISTIAN MEDIA NETWORK

YOU'RE BEING HAD,

for they must all answer to the $tate/dollar before they can answer to the Almighty.

Look for God in your heart, learn about what it takes to become a member of His Church in the authorized 1611 King James Bible.

Consider the following actions by America's clear-thinking fore-fathers:

"This lawyer, a former farmer and storekeeper, rode into Culpepper, Virginia in March, 1775. As he approached the center of town, he was disgusted and shocked by the sight that met his stare. In the middle of the towne square, a man was lashed to a whipping post, his back was bloody and raw, being laid bare by the metal-tips of the whip that had persecuted him. Henry inquired of the crowd what the man did to deserve such a beating as this. The answer was that he was a Preacher of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, one of a dozen, who refused to take out a license to preach from the Anglican (English) church. The governor was under an edict from King George III to force all preachers to take the license and the 'renegade ministers' were put on trial - without the benefit of a jury. This particular minister had greatly resisted, declaring in court, "I will never submit to taking your license. I am controlled by the Holy Spirit, and authorized by God Almighty, and I will not allow you to control me by a license, no matter what you may do to me." [BRAVO!] This man, and his (11) fellow preachers, were all publicly flogged for their 'treasonous behavior' - they had resisted to blood  - and this man ... unto death. The beating he withstood was so brutal that the outraged Patrick Henry could count the man's ribs. The courage and thirst for liberty of this 'man of God' inspired Patrick Henry deeply. There is little doubt that the event blazed in his mind as he spoke a short while later the words that he would become most famous for - "give me liberty - or give me death." The text of his famous speech is included here in this historic brief so you may read of his love for liberty and trust in the Lord of Hosts." —for the full article go to http://members.aol.com/Prophet007/HD/Liberty.html 

[Sadly the name of the man who had "resisted to blood"  never became as famous as the lawyer, Patrick Henry, who spent none of his that day.] 

How far America has fallen; she is under judgment for she REFUSES to figure out her transgression—namely that EACH and EVERY CORPORATE "CHURCH" is an abomination to the WORD of God Almighty!

Consider Hurricane Katrina, the drought in Georgia, the floods and tornadoes in central America, consider that foreigners are flooding into America—these are all the curses of disobedience spelled out in Deuteronomy chapter 28; consider Isaiah 1:7-Your country is desolate [New Orleans], your cities are burned with fire [Detroit, Los Angeles, New York come to mind]: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.

Each and every day His church is being persecuted right here in America right under America's nose; each and every day she cries onto God for she will not join with the beast church, and prefers to suffer persecution rather than disobey His WORD.  His church is comprised of the nameless, faceless believers who trust that HE will repay all those who are culpable for their persecution in His time and in His way.  Each day the "day of the wrath of the LORD" draws closer, and each day America adds to her iniquity through the wicked actions of her pagan/CORPORATE/bu$iness bodyThe Church of the Bottom Line. 

If you belong to any  CORPORATE/bu$iness body in ANY way shape or form, then you are responsible for all of that CORPORATE/bu$iness body's iniquity for without your support it could not survive.

The body of the bea$t?

or

the Body of Christ?

How do you know which you support? If your "church" can cash a check in the bu$iness name of its "church" then it is operating under a "fictitious/CORPORATE name" and you are part of its "fictitious/beast body" when you provide its $ustenance and $upport...

and if you empower the bea$t,

then the day of the wrath of the Lord was

 created just for you...

Ezekiel 7:19 They [Americans] shall cast their silver in the streets, and their gold shall be removed: their silver and their gold shall not be able to deliver them in the day of the wrath of the LORD: they shall not satisfy their souls, neither fill their bowels: because it is the stumblingblock of their iniquity.

Job 21:30 That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction? they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath.

Proverbs 11:4 Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death.

Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

Isaiah 13:13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

Ezekiel 38:19 For in my jealousy [and] in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; [America is the land of Israel]

Zephaniah 1:15 That day [is] a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

Zephaniah 1:18 Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.

Romans 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

The time of His wrath is nearly here.  

Luke 21:7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass? 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. 21:9 But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by. 21:10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven. 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. 21:13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony. 21:14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. 21:16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. 21:18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish. 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.

Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Those who deny themselves of the "whore"/ the INCORPORATED "church" body and choose instead to worship HIM in spirit and in truth must take up their cross and follow HIM if they are to be HIS for the "saints" must be persecuted, the Body of Christ must suffer for the "day of the wrath of the LORD" to occur, as HE is a thoroughly righteous God and will not inflict punishment upon the innocent.

Righteousness according to His WORD is in right action; those who help the poor and the fatherless, those who ease the suffering of His Church will fare a whole lot better in the day of Judgment than those who merely empowered the CORPORATION to persecute His true Church under the pretence of His name.

 YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

It is a voice's opinion that some are called to fight the tyrants who attempt to enslave a free people under their "authority." During the period in history known as the Reformation, a group called Protestants were born. This group initially protested Rome's spiritual "authority" in their lives. Consider the following:

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"Regarding the change from the observance of the Jewish Sabbath to the Christian Sunday, I wish to draw your attention to the facts:

"1) That Protestants, who accept the Bible as the only rule of faith and religion, should by all means go back to the observance of the Sabbath. The fact that they do not, but on the contrary observe the Sunday, stultifies them in the eyes of every thinking man.

"2)We Catholics do not accept the Bible as the only rule of faith. Besides the Bible we have the living Church, the authority of the Church, as a rule to guide us. We say, this Church, instituted by Christ to teach and guide man through life, has the right to change the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament and hence, we accept her change of the Sabbath to Sunday. We frankly say, yes, the Church made this change, made this law, as she made many other laws, for instance, the Friday abstinence, the unmarried priesthood, the laws concerning mixed marriages, the regulation of Catholic marriages and a thousand other laws.

"It is always somewhat laughable, to see the Protestant churches, in pulpit and legislation, demand the observance of Sunday, of which there is nothing in their Bible."
—Peter R. Kraemer, Catholic Church Extension Society (1975), Chicago, Illinois.

Please note that Mr. Kraemer has succinctly elucidated the salient difference between those under the authority of the Catholic Faith and those who are free from it. By his quote one can deduce that all of Christianity can be broken down into two major groups: those who recognize the Holy Bible as the sole authority for spiritual matters and those who think that the Bible needs a worldly "authority figure" to depict, decipher, and contaminate it. Is the Bible wrong or out of date when it relay's the following, does forever, not mean forever? Does the seventh day really float? Whose got it wrong here?

Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
 

Exodus 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.


A voice steadfastly recognizes that the personal study and application of the Bible—the 1611 King James Version—the WORD—is the only true road to the Kingdom of Heaven. Sadly, a voice has discovered that very few true protestants remain, for many have carelessly and willingly given His Glory to another. A voice will not. A voice was sued by a self proclaimed "prophet of the Lord" because a voice would not give His Glory to another.

The greatest treasure for the Adversary on the face of the earth is not to acquire mainstream "Christianity" as they sold out long ago. The Adversary seeks to enslave people like a voice under the authority of a worldly "authority figure," as those who believe as I do, are the only contest left in this world!

Because a voice rejected Mr. Lloyd's version of Christianity, his "authority," as a "leader" of true Protestantism, and that he "speaks" for God as His prophet, a voice was persecuted in the name of Mr. Lloyd's business interests. If people want to elevate Mr. Lloyd as their pope, they are free to do so. Various versions of the Gospel have been widely taught upon the Internet one is free in my opinion, to contend with whose version of "Christianity" is best for oneself—but as for me and my house—we will fight against spiritual tyranny and will follow to the best of our ability ONLY the Holy Bible—the WORD—or die the process. A voice cannot go along and get along with what is sold as "Christianity" these days for a voice does not recognize, the WORD or God's Spirit within it.

Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

It is the humble opinion of this voice that the true Christian must live free from this world yet in complete bondage to God and all that He is.   What assures a horrible eternity is to commit the unpardonable sin of blasphemy of the Holy Ghost and ignore God's leading.  What assures an even worse fate is to lead others away from the Truth so that they will commit the unpardonable sin of blasphemy of the Holy Ghost, yet many "authority figures" vie for the supremacy that should be given to God. This is the Adversaries greatest quest, to draw off those who are freed from the world by God’s grace and enslave them under worldly “authority figures” who masquerade as God’s anointed. These “authority figures” are well rewarded by the world with money, power and respect—something that Sigmund Freud pointed out as the motivational forces behind the worldly man.

Many within this modern age have fallen prey to the brain-washing techniques which were developed largely during World War I and II. The exact techniques used to mold the thinking of a nation at war are now played out on the radio and televisions of this world to sweep God’s anointed away for Him so that they will blaspheme the Holy Ghost.

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"If we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, is it not possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing about it?” — Edward L. Bernays
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“We cannot use men as they are; they must be shaped according to the use that is to be make of them.”—Adam Weishaupt
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“Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.”– Garth S. Jowett and Victoria O'Donnell, Propaganda and Persuasion

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"Propaganda is neutrally defined as a systematic form of purposeful persuasion that attempts to influence the emotions, attitudes, opinions, and actions of specified target audiences for ideological, political or commercial purposes through the controlled transmission of one-sided messages (which may or may not be factual) via mass and direct media channels. A propaganda organization employs propagandists who engage in propagandism—the applied creation and distribution of such forms of persuasion." —R.A. Nelson, A Chronology and Glossary of Propaganda in the United States, 1996

In 1928 Edward Bernays wrote a book called Propaganda, the following excerpts are from the first chapter of his book:

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"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country.”

We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of...

…Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by [a] relatively small number of persons...It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world...

…As civilization has become more complex, and as the need for invisible government has been increasingly demonstrated, the technical means have been invented and developed by which opinion may be regimented..."

Edward Bernays defines “propaganda” in chapter two:

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"Modern propaganda is a consistent, enduring effort to create or shape events to influence the relations of the public to an enterprise, idea or group."

Not surprisingly “propaganda” was a Roman Catholic invention to “propagate the faith,” although history shows that more likely it was invented to propagate the authority of the pope. From www.wikipedia.com on the subject of "propaganda":

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“Etymology
In 1622, shortly after the start of the Thirty Years' War, Pope Gregory XV founded the Congregatio de Propaganda Fide ("Congregation for Spreading the Faith"), a committee of Cardinals with the duty of overseeing the propagation of Christianity by missionaries sent to Catholic countries. Therefore, the term itself originates with this Byzantine Catholic Sacred Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith (sacra congregatio christiano nomini propagando or, briefly, propaganda fide), the department of the pontifical administration charged with the spread of Catholicism and with the regulation of ecclesiastical affairs in mission territory, which is how the Vatican referred to non-Catholic territories. The Latin stem propagand- conveys a sense of "that which ought to be spread". Originally the term was not intended to refer to misleading information. The modern sense dates from World War I, when the term evolved to be mainly associated with politic.”

It is debatable that misleading information was not intentional as the aim was to conquer for papal authority, rather than Biblical authority. Catholic missions were a very effective way to over-throw an existing government’s authority by infiltration. The Japanese discovered this a long time ago. Jesuits had been allowed to set up a mission in sixteenth century Japan. The Japanese had been open and receptive to the new religion and some had even converted to Catholicism. The number of the “converted” began to grow until one day a Spanish Galleon was spotted off shore. The Galleon landed and proceeded to tell the Japanese Sho-gun how to run his government. The Sho-gun was furious; he demanded the ship leave and a battle developed. Those who had been converted fought on the side of the Catholics. It was then that it occurred to the Sho-gun what had happened. The Jesuits had arrived to soften him from within so that the Spanish Galleon could take over by force from without, if necessary. The Sho-gun was impressed with the strategy but had a difficult time fighting off the ship of war as Japan had no cannons at the time. A Dutch vessel happened to be near at the time and offered to sell the Sho-gun a cannon or two so he could defend himself. He was successful at defending his territory and later killed the Japanese Catholics who had been confederate with the Spanish. The Sho-gun widely publicized the event throughout the entire nation of Japan to such an extent that it took hundreds of years before Christian, let alone Catholic missions were ever allowed on Japanese soil again.

The concept of “propaganda” was the idea behind the "Engineering of Consent;" the brain child of Bernays who was influenced by Sigmund Freud’s idea that humans are irrational beings who are motivated primarily by inner desires hidden in their unconscious. If one could determine what those unconscious desires were, those universal hopes, fears, and aspirations, then one could use the data to one's advantage; furthermore if one combined them with Ivan Pavlov’s behavior modification techniques then one could promote politicians, socialist agendas or even control the world. "Subliminal messages" whether in audio or visual form have been used successfully for approximately a hundred years to modify behavior. Inventions such as the radio, television and even photography have greatly aided the movement. Consequently, behavior modification has been deliberately designed with the intent to move society away from the Almighty and mold it to not only accept tyranny on a global scale, but also welcome it at the subconscious or even unconscious level! The following is an excerpt from the book Operation Hollywood by David L. Robb (2004);

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"Hollywood and the Pentagon have a long history of making movies together. It's a tradition that stretches back to the early days of silent films, and extends right up until the present day. It's been a collaboration that works well for both sides. Hollywood producers get what they want - access to billions of dollars worth of military hardware and equipment - tanks, jet fighters, nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers - and the military gets what it wants - films that portray the military in a positive light; films that help the services in their recruiting efforts. The Pentagon is not merely a passive supporter of films, however. If the Pentagon doesn't like a script, it will usually suggest script changes that will allow the film to receive the military's support and approval. Sometimes these proposed changes are minor. But sometimes the changes are dramatic. Sometimes they change dialogue. Sometimes they change characters. Sometimes they even change history."

The most important thing that a true born again Christian can do is recognize that such a system is in place and develop mechanisms by which to counter the constant programming to depart from the Bible. IMO one needs to turn off the radio and the TV and read one’s Bible. One needs to develop proper thinking skills and be wary of the techniques used in brain washing. According to BJU press 2003’s lesson 35 on “Propaganda,” such techniques include the following:

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Bandwagon uses the idea that everyone else has something or is doing something, so the hearer or viewer should too.

Name calling uses negative words to create an unfavorable opinion in the hearer’s or viewer’s mind.

Testimonial uses personal testimony or experience to win confidence in a person product, or cause.

Glittering generalities associate a person, practice, belief, custom, or cause with “virtue words” to make it sound good or noble.

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

It is a voice's opinion that one must constantly be vigilant and fight for one’s freedom from a worldly spiritual “authority,” so that one will not let one’s salvation slip away—precept upon precept. Live free under the power of the Holy Spirit of God or die trying, this is my quest, for IMOone can loose one’s salvation...